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Top 20 most heared comments on vegetarianism / veganism
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I found this on www.biteback.be and translated it to English and used some of my own words describing it.
1a. If everyone was vegetarian, the earth would be infested by animals
Its not allowed for animals owned by farmers that they reproduce in a normal way. Farmers only breed animals if they have a chance of making profit. Lets say the demand for meat will slowly decrease, less animals would be cultivated. This means that we would not be run over by cows or pigs, like some seem to fear. The few that will be left would be able to run free. Pigs can enjoy the mud in the woods, what they normally do. Sheep’s could live on fields of grass like deer’s and cows. They population will find its natural size, like it goes with all animals
1b. if everyone became vegetarian, all animals would die.
This is the opposite of the first question. Vegetarians hear all kinds of questions. Its true that the amount of animals would decrease if in the coming years they would have to cultivate less and less of them. Farm animals lead controlled, disturbed lives, full of fear and pain. The big amount of these animals is being kept in sealed space, where they never see daylight. The few that can go outside, can only live a fraction of their natural life span, before they are slaughtered for their meat – which often happens in a barbaric way. All farm animals are born and die on commando – a horrible thought. A lot of used races are made so different from their natural ancestors by human cultivation - that it would be more humane to let them die. An example: Meat-chickens and turkeys suffer hallucinant forms of obesity because they can barely walk en in the best case they walk around crippled. We could create more natural reservoirs where we can keep the more traditional (now rare) races that are not changed a lot by humans. There would be more space for reservations because a big amount is used to grow food for the animals who are going to get slaughtered. There would be more space for woods, forest, meadows etc… A lot of people forget that farm animals have wild ancestors, that are being breed for ages to what their race is now. In a vegetarian world, animals would not be kept for profit or greed, they would be able to live in a natural and free way.
Note: though only such a world can be here when the mind is stopped. Because the mind reflects behaviour on all levels and abuse will continue.
2. Our tooth and digestive system is made to eat meat.
O No, that does not necessarily have to be that way. We can digest meat, but our digestive system is different then that of carnivores: our intestines are longer ( so we can digest a lot of vegetable material) and our tooth are not designed to cut and rip raw meat. Our tooth and mouth don’t have the right shape to kill or hold preys. That’s why people have to cook their meat before they eat it. And we don’t even think abut chewing on uncooked bones. What about our sharp canine teeth? Gorillas are vegetarians, like a lot of primates, and they have even bigger and sharper teeth then the homo sapiens. The diet of our ancestors was vegetarian , till the point they began hunting, about 1.5 million years ago. In that time, meat was just a fraction of their diet.
Note: it does not mean that if we would have specific features, like huge knifes that could come out of our skin, that we would need to use those.
The fact is that lots of us do not need to eat meat to survive or to even live in a healthy way.
3. Eating meat is natural
No its not. People have began eating meat only recently in our evolutionary history, and only by the use of utensils like spheres and fire. When men discovered farming(not really “natural”), meat became a regular part of their diet. People eating meat on a daily basis is only a recent trend – we have done this after world war II. This has reduced the costs of the breeding of animals and had an increasing growth in meat eating. Some numbers to illustrate this: in 1946 they ate about 3.2 million chicken in great Britain, in 2001 it was 800 million. What’s natural about intensive breeding, living transport and slaughter houses?
4. Alot of animals kill other animals to eat: why should we do it?
We don’t have to kill them: we can choose not to. Lions, tiger etc… have to kill to survive. As far as we know. Animals follow their instincts, we can look at the consequences of our actions. We can recognize the suffering of other animals and choose not to participate. What to think about humankind, if we choose to let them suffer. Eating meat is the cause of a lot of pain and misery: its destroying our planet and costs millions. And maybe animals are reflecting what we have done to each other in this world. Either way, we have to take responsibility. You do not need to eat meat to be “healthy”.
Note: all is connected, we, the animals, all we see in this world… So our behaviour can well be reflected on the animal kingdom. So that the animal kingdom is here to support us and show us what we have allowed. The lion will not lay down with the man before the mind is stopped.
5. Its ok to eat an animal when it had a good life.
Would it be ok to kill people to eat them after they had a good life? And what do they mean with “good” life? In the case of animals, it certainly does not mean a long life. Meat-animals are killed as baby or as soon as they are physically adult. In human years it would be as teenager . They can never life some form of adult life. Animals want to live as bad as we do. By killing them, we take away their most valuable possession: we deny them the right to exist. Its also naïf to think that there are farm animals who live good lives: the big amount of them is abused, neglected and frustrated in all their natural needs. They are forced to live lives in misery due to the farming system that only sees them as a way to make profit. In the end, a gruesome death awaits them in the slaughterhouse: despite the so called human anaesthesia, millions of animals are still by conscious when their throat is being slit. Even free range and bio-animals suffer greatly on the farms. And they die the same chocking death at young age as the animals in the intensive farming industry.
Note: again we are acting as if we are superior and can decide whether an animal had a good life or not and when it can die and when it can live. What I think about here is that we blame Hitler or racists for doing things, yet we are doing the exact same thing to the animal kingdom. (see after these 20 points for more)
6. I only eat bio meat/fish and free range eggs.
Every human choice to cause animals less suffering, is a good choice – but why stop with some sorts of suffering and some species? Fish and chickens also feel pain and have the instinct to save their lives. In that they are the same as humans, the cow and pigs. Some animals seem less “sweet”, but that does not mean their life has less importance. Although free range chickens and bio animals have sometimes a bit better lives, they also suffer a lot of misery. An example: free range eggs is a deceiving terminology, because thousands of chickens in a barn, that have a very small piece of land outside and rarely are allowed there – legally this can be called free range. Even in the better free range or bio chicken farms the early born male chicks are killed – because they don’t lay eggs and are not suitable for meat production. They are seen as a useless product. All farm animals are denied a normal social relation with their kind: ducks can never see their babies, same goes for chickens and hens. The babies of pigs are taken away very early after birth. Milk cows are seeing their babies been taken away 1 day after birth. Even on bio farm in the Uk, male calf’s are being shot death, because they cant give milk and are not suited for meat production. All farms make it impossible for the animals to live a normal life. And all of them get slaughtered, as soon as they are worth more death then alive. Its not necessary to breed an animal or slaughter it. Its all sustains animal suffering, no matter what meat you eat. Also environmental problems caused by the meat industry and the world hunger problems. The less meat people eat, the better, and a lot of consuments choose to lead a life eating less meat. Also a lot of vegetarian have become vegetarian step by step. In the end, the only consistent and ethical choose is to stop eating meat.
7. Plants scream when they are pulled out of the ground and are being cut into pieces.
This remark is often used to create argument. Plants do not have pain receptors like we see it. The noise is gass moving inside of the plant. Even if they would feel pain, we want to remind you that comparing to a vegetarian, a meat eater is responsible for the death of 10 times more plants. This is because the animals they eat , eat huge amounts of plants themselves. So there is no excuse.
Note: Yes, plants might as well feel pain and are no less or more then me or animals. But for now, eating them is the way of as less as possible suffering. So be grateful when you eat.
8. if you would live on a deserted island, you would eat meat!
I don’t know – but in a struggle to survive on a dessert island it would also be normal to walk around naked maybe, that doesn’t mean I choose these things now. Its not about “what if”. It’s about NOW.
9. God put the animals on earth to serve us
Around those that believe in religion, there is a lot of dispute about if God wants us to eat animals or not. Not 1 of the big religions says their followers should eat meat, and many devote Christians, Muslims, Buddhists and Jews are vegetarian. Like all Hare Krishnas and Jains btw. Most Hindus don’t eat beef or pork meat. For most of them, the question is one of individual perception. Most religions have songs about compassion, sweetness and mercy. The slaughter house and farming companies don’t seem to fit in that image don’t they.
Note: that God wants us to eat and kill animals and be rulers over them is a believe and no certainty. It is absolute deception and not based on equality and oneness. In that statement nr 9 , our ego rules.
10. if we all eat more vegetables, don’t we need more pesticides?
No. Apart from the question if we even need pesticides, a vegetarian world would guarantee less use of that, because for the simple reason that less plants will be grown for food. Meat-animals are being fed huge amounts of plants, and they don’t even transform those efficient into food. A breed animal has to eat an average of 10 kg plant protein to produce 1 kg of meat. Or: if we would use the same soil to grow plants for humans, it would be 10 times more productive. 90 percent of the food for farm animals is pure waste. If we would not eat animals, we would not need to grow all those vegetables and grains and use pesticides on them.
11. Its ok to eat fish, they dont feel Fish can feel pain.
A lot of scientific studies have proven this. Although the little mythological conversations of them having no feelings, is still being spread. The modern day intensive fishing methods cause immense suffering. The fit is being squashed in an overpopulated fishing net, or is thrown on the ship deck where it suffers a suffocation death, slowly. Or they get stripped. This means that they get cut with a knife to get their intestines and blood out, all without anaesthesia. A lot of fish aren’t death when they do that, but even live on for 10-15 minutes. A lot of fish (like salmon) are being breed into overstocked basins these days, where they deal with parasites and infections.
12.What would be left of the countryside if animals would not be able to graze there?
We already pointed at this: There would be required less soil if we all would be vegetarian. This means that nature gets a chance to grow. In Belgium there is only a little bit of forest left. If we didn’t have to spend so many space on corn, soy and other food for farm animals, this could change. Although a lot of people fear this, it does not mean that vegetarian causes doom for the countryside. Putting an end to breeding animals for food mean to put and end to the misery of millions of animals plus an opportunity that fauna and flora can recover.
Note: it would be strange to place a picture presentation like “the country side” above the suffering of beings.
13. Why don’t you do something for people instead of animals?
Vegetarianism is good for people. 1st point; the meat industry causes problems in our environment by deforestation, soil erosion, water pollution and the discharge of hothouse gasses. – 2de point: meat production is a non efficient way for human food production. A lot of food which could directly go to humans, is being used to feed farm animals. Before we have 1 kg of beef meat, a cow needs to eat 4 times her own bodyweight to produce that. In the development countries a huge amount of their farm arsenal is used to produce food for farm animals that is being exported to the rich countries- while they themselves need food, and they should better produce food to feed the own population.
Note: Showing compassion to animals is not in competition with showing compassion to humans. Vegetarianism is a choice that a lot can easily make and that will save a lot of animal and peoples lives. Its not hard to do. It does not mean that when you see animals as equal, that you suddenly don’t want to do anything for humans. All is based on oneness.
14. Hitler was also a vegetarian.
This is not true. He ate meat – like Himmler, Goering, Adolf Eichmann, Stalin, Pol pot, Attila de Hun, Idi amin, Saddam Hussein, bin laden and Marc Dutroux and like almost all killers that made the history books. Even if there was a vegetarian amongst them, that would prove nothing. It would definitely be a good choice if they made it. Hitler was put on a vegetarian diet due to health risks, which he didn’t like.
Note: it does not mean that all things someone “bad” has done, are “bad” in general. Its is generalising, believing a person who did gruesome things is not able to do anything else then that. Also there are a lot of vegetarians who were famous and “smart”.
15. If we would stop eating meat, the farmers would have no job.
Yes, if war would stop the soldiers would have no job either, if we would help crime out of the world , the police would not be needed, if there were no deceases, the doctors and nurses would have no job…I can give you many examples of that. Even if we would eat vegetarian, we would still have to eat! So there would be enough work for farmers. Oh and to mention; its only when the intensive farming came to live, that the unemployment in the farming sector increased, because they needed less people to take care of the milliards of animals. If we would look at it hypothetical, and farmers would loose their job, this is no reason to keep breeding animals. Eating meat is misery for the animals, damaging to the planet and ourselves. The only honest thing to do is to stop eating meat, even if the career of some suffer for that.
16. Its good for me that you are vegetarian – but you should not try to convince others. Let the person choose themselves.
Try to let a person see something, is not forcing them. What we eat is not just the business of 1 individual. Eating meat and vegetarianism are not an everlasting flip flop between 2 sides of the same coin. The one causes millions of animals to suffer and die, harms the planet and is unhealthy. The other is not. This is the reason why vegetarians are so driven to speak about it. The individual choice of becoming a vegetarian influences the life of millions of beings.
17. What does it matter that 1 person eats no meat?
A huge different! During the total lifetime the average meat eater eats 5 cows, 20 pigs, 29 sheep and lambs, 780 chickens, 46 turkeys, 7 rabbits and 1 goose and about half a ton of fish. That are a lot of lives saved. We make this world people, changing it begins with ourselves.
Note: every change starts with yourself. There is no one that will do something for you. If you only do things because others do it, then you are a slave.
18. We eat meat since the beginning.
Yes, we also steal, lie, murder and have war since the beginning. That does not mean those things must continue.
Note: this has been going on for so long and will go on when we keep living in our minds and thus in systems.
19. Why do vegetarians always look sick?
They don’t. You can ask the same questions why toupee’s always look geeky. This is why you only notice the “bad” versions. It is seemingly easier to remember 1 pale vegetarian. But if you know someone that looks sick, does not mean that all vegetarians look like that. some famous people who are vegetarian, because I know some of you still want examples to live by : Alicia Silverstone, Joachim Phoenis, Pamela Anderson or Olympic sprinter Carl Lewis.
Note: It is again generalising, and in some way copied thoughts because the comment is spread.
20. If the animals weren’t happy, they would not grow or lay eggs.
This is not correct. Humans do not grow because they are happy, and neither do animals. Modern day meat chicken grow about 2 times as fast as chickens 50 years ago- although their life standard has gotten worse and worse: being stocked with 10 thousand of beings in a stinky, closed breeding bard, with a cut off beak and most are mutilated and paralyzed. They grow because they are breed intensively to get variants that gain weight faster. They are being fed special diets, and are given growth increasing products. Same thing with milk cows: they are cultivated to produce more and more milk, to produce more milk then they naturally would. You could even say that the milking industry support on the unhappiness of their animals – the calves are taken away because then the human can drink the mother milk. Chickens are cultivated to lay so many eggs that they loose to many calcium and suffer from chronicle osteoporoses and fractures. Please, they don’t lay eggs because they are so happy, they do it because they have no choice.
I found this on www.biteback.be and translated it to English and used some of my own words describing it.
1a. If everyone was vegetarian, the earth would be infested by animals
Its not allowed for animals owned by farmers that they reproduce in a normal way. Farmers only breed animals if they have a chance of making profit. Lets say the demand for meat will slowly decrease, less animals would be cultivated. This means that we would not be run over by cows or pigs, like some seem to fear. The few that will be left would be able to run free. Pigs can enjoy the mud in the woods, what they normally do. Sheep’s could live on fields of grass like deer’s and cows. They population will find its natural size, like it goes with all animals
1b. if everyone became vegetarian, all animals would die.
This is the opposite of the first question. Vegetarians hear all kinds of questions. Its true that the amount of animals would decrease if in the coming years they would have to cultivate less and less of them. Farm animals lead controlled, disturbed lives, full of fear and pain. The big amount of these animals is being kept in sealed space, where they never see daylight. The few that can go outside, can only live a fraction of their natural life span, before they are slaughtered for their meat – which often happens in a barbaric way. All farm animals are born and die on commando – a horrible thought. A lot of used races are made so different from their natural ancestors by human cultivation - that it would be more humane to let them die. An example: Meat-chickens and turkeys suffer hallucinant forms of obesity because they can barely walk en in the best case they walk around crippled. We could create more natural reservoirs where we can keep the more traditional (now rare) races that are not changed a lot by humans. There would be more space for reservations because a big amount is used to grow food for the animals who are going to get slaughtered. There would be more space for woods, forest, meadows etc… A lot of people forget that farm animals have wild ancestors, that are being breed for ages to what their race is now. In a vegetarian world, animals would not be kept for profit or greed, they would be able to live in a natural and free way.
Note: though only such a world can be here when the mind is stopped. Because the mind reflects behaviour on all levels and abuse will continue.
2. Our tooth and digestive system is made to eat meat.
O No, that does not necessarily have to be that way. We can digest meat, but our digestive system is different then that of carnivores: our intestines are longer ( so we can digest a lot of vegetable material) and our tooth are not designed to cut and rip raw meat. Our tooth and mouth don’t have the right shape to kill or hold preys. That’s why people have to cook their meat before they eat it. And we don’t even think abut chewing on uncooked bones. What about our sharp canine teeth? Gorillas are vegetarians, like a lot of primates, and they have even bigger and sharper teeth then the homo sapiens. The diet of our ancestors was vegetarian , till the point they began hunting, about 1.5 million years ago. In that time, meat was just a fraction of their diet.
Note: it does not mean that if we would have specific features, like huge knifes that could come out of our skin, that we would need to use those.
The fact is that lots of us do not need to eat meat to survive or to even live in a healthy way.
3. Eating meat is natural
No its not. People have began eating meat only recently in our evolutionary history, and only by the use of utensils like spheres and fire. When men discovered farming(not really “natural”), meat became a regular part of their diet. People eating meat on a daily basis is only a recent trend – we have done this after world war II. This has reduced the costs of the breeding of animals and had an increasing growth in meat eating. Some numbers to illustrate this: in 1946 they ate about 3.2 million chicken in great Britain, in 2001 it was 800 million. What’s natural about intensive breeding, living transport and slaughter houses?
4. Alot of animals kill other animals to eat: why should we do it?
We don’t have to kill them: we can choose not to. Lions, tiger etc… have to kill to survive. As far as we know. Animals follow their instincts, we can look at the consequences of our actions. We can recognize the suffering of other animals and choose not to participate. What to think about humankind, if we choose to let them suffer. Eating meat is the cause of a lot of pain and misery: its destroying our planet and costs millions. And maybe animals are reflecting what we have done to each other in this world. Either way, we have to take responsibility. You do not need to eat meat to be “healthy”.
Note: all is connected, we, the animals, all we see in this world… So our behaviour can well be reflected on the animal kingdom. So that the animal kingdom is here to support us and show us what we have allowed. The lion will not lay down with the man before the mind is stopped.
5. Its ok to eat an animal when it had a good life.
Would it be ok to kill people to eat them after they had a good life? And what do they mean with “good” life? In the case of animals, it certainly does not mean a long life. Meat-animals are killed as baby or as soon as they are physically adult. In human years it would be as teenager . They can never life some form of adult life. Animals want to live as bad as we do. By killing them, we take away their most valuable possession: we deny them the right to exist. Its also naïf to think that there are farm animals who live good lives: the big amount of them is abused, neglected and frustrated in all their natural needs. They are forced to live lives in misery due to the farming system that only sees them as a way to make profit. In the end, a gruesome death awaits them in the slaughterhouse: despite the so called human anaesthesia, millions of animals are still by conscious when their throat is being slit. Even free range and bio-animals suffer greatly on the farms. And they die the same chocking death at young age as the animals in the intensive farming industry.
Note: again we are acting as if we are superior and can decide whether an animal had a good life or not and when it can die and when it can live. What I think about here is that we blame Hitler or racists for doing things, yet we are doing the exact same thing to the animal kingdom. (see after these 20 points for more)
6. I only eat bio meat/fish and free range eggs.
Every human choice to cause animals less suffering, is a good choice – but why stop with some sorts of suffering and some species? Fish and chickens also feel pain and have the instinct to save their lives. In that they are the same as humans, the cow and pigs. Some animals seem less “sweet”, but that does not mean their life has less importance. Although free range chickens and bio animals have sometimes a bit better lives, they also suffer a lot of misery. An example: free range eggs is a deceiving terminology, because thousands of chickens in a barn, that have a very small piece of land outside and rarely are allowed there – legally this can be called free range. Even in the better free range or bio chicken farms the early born male chicks are killed – because they don’t lay eggs and are not suitable for meat production. They are seen as a useless product. All farm animals are denied a normal social relation with their kind: ducks can never see their babies, same goes for chickens and hens. The babies of pigs are taken away very early after birth. Milk cows are seeing their babies been taken away 1 day after birth. Even on bio farm in the Uk, male calf’s are being shot death, because they cant give milk and are not suited for meat production. All farms make it impossible for the animals to live a normal life. And all of them get slaughtered, as soon as they are worth more death then alive. Its not necessary to breed an animal or slaughter it. Its all sustains animal suffering, no matter what meat you eat. Also environmental problems caused by the meat industry and the world hunger problems. The less meat people eat, the better, and a lot of consuments choose to lead a life eating less meat. Also a lot of vegetarian have become vegetarian step by step. In the end, the only consistent and ethical choose is to stop eating meat.
7. Plants scream when they are pulled out of the ground and are being cut into pieces.
This remark is often used to create argument. Plants do not have pain receptors like we see it. The noise is gass moving inside of the plant. Even if they would feel pain, we want to remind you that comparing to a vegetarian, a meat eater is responsible for the death of 10 times more plants. This is because the animals they eat , eat huge amounts of plants themselves. So there is no excuse.
Note: Yes, plants might as well feel pain and are no less or more then me or animals. But for now, eating them is the way of as less as possible suffering. So be grateful when you eat.
8. if you would live on a deserted island, you would eat meat!
I don’t know – but in a struggle to survive on a dessert island it would also be normal to walk around naked maybe, that doesn’t mean I choose these things now. Its not about “what if”. It’s about NOW.
9. God put the animals on earth to serve us
Around those that believe in religion, there is a lot of dispute about if God wants us to eat animals or not. Not 1 of the big religions says their followers should eat meat, and many devote Christians, Muslims, Buddhists and Jews are vegetarian. Like all Hare Krishnas and Jains btw. Most Hindus don’t eat beef or pork meat. For most of them, the question is one of individual perception. Most religions have songs about compassion, sweetness and mercy. The slaughter house and farming companies don’t seem to fit in that image don’t they.
Note: that God wants us to eat and kill animals and be rulers over them is a believe and no certainty. It is absolute deception and not based on equality and oneness. In that statement nr 9 , our ego rules.
10. if we all eat more vegetables, don’t we need more pesticides?
No. Apart from the question if we even need pesticides, a vegetarian world would guarantee less use of that, because for the simple reason that less plants will be grown for food. Meat-animals are being fed huge amounts of plants, and they don’t even transform those efficient into food. A breed animal has to eat an average of 10 kg plant protein to produce 1 kg of meat. Or: if we would use the same soil to grow plants for humans, it would be 10 times more productive. 90 percent of the food for farm animals is pure waste. If we would not eat animals, we would not need to grow all those vegetables and grains and use pesticides on them.
11. Its ok to eat fish, they dont feel Fish can feel pain.
A lot of scientific studies have proven this. Although the little mythological conversations of them having no feelings, is still being spread. The modern day intensive fishing methods cause immense suffering. The fit is being squashed in an overpopulated fishing net, or is thrown on the ship deck where it suffers a suffocation death, slowly. Or they get stripped. This means that they get cut with a knife to get their intestines and blood out, all without anaesthesia. A lot of fish aren’t death when they do that, but even live on for 10-15 minutes. A lot of fish (like salmon) are being breed into overstocked basins these days, where they deal with parasites and infections.
12.What would be left of the countryside if animals would not be able to graze there?
We already pointed at this: There would be required less soil if we all would be vegetarian. This means that nature gets a chance to grow. In Belgium there is only a little bit of forest left. If we didn’t have to spend so many space on corn, soy and other food for farm animals, this could change. Although a lot of people fear this, it does not mean that vegetarian causes doom for the countryside. Putting an end to breeding animals for food mean to put and end to the misery of millions of animals plus an opportunity that fauna and flora can recover.
Note: it would be strange to place a picture presentation like “the country side” above the suffering of beings.
13. Why don’t you do something for people instead of animals?
Vegetarianism is good for people. 1st point; the meat industry causes problems in our environment by deforestation, soil erosion, water pollution and the discharge of hothouse gasses. – 2de point: meat production is a non efficient way for human food production. A lot of food which could directly go to humans, is being used to feed farm animals. Before we have 1 kg of beef meat, a cow needs to eat 4 times her own bodyweight to produce that. In the development countries a huge amount of their farm arsenal is used to produce food for farm animals that is being exported to the rich countries- while they themselves need food, and they should better produce food to feed the own population.
Note: Showing compassion to animals is not in competition with showing compassion to humans. Vegetarianism is a choice that a lot can easily make and that will save a lot of animal and peoples lives. Its not hard to do. It does not mean that when you see animals as equal, that you suddenly don’t want to do anything for humans. All is based on oneness.
14. Hitler was also a vegetarian.
This is not true. He ate meat – like Himmler, Goering, Adolf Eichmann, Stalin, Pol pot, Attila de Hun, Idi amin, Saddam Hussein, bin laden and Marc Dutroux and like almost all killers that made the history books. Even if there was a vegetarian amongst them, that would prove nothing. It would definitely be a good choice if they made it. Hitler was put on a vegetarian diet due to health risks, which he didn’t like.
Note: it does not mean that all things someone “bad” has done, are “bad” in general. Its is generalising, believing a person who did gruesome things is not able to do anything else then that. Also there are a lot of vegetarians who were famous and “smart”.
15. If we would stop eating meat, the farmers would have no job.
Yes, if war would stop the soldiers would have no job either, if we would help crime out of the world , the police would not be needed, if there were no deceases, the doctors and nurses would have no job…I can give you many examples of that. Even if we would eat vegetarian, we would still have to eat! So there would be enough work for farmers. Oh and to mention; its only when the intensive farming came to live, that the unemployment in the farming sector increased, because they needed less people to take care of the milliards of animals. If we would look at it hypothetical, and farmers would loose their job, this is no reason to keep breeding animals. Eating meat is misery for the animals, damaging to the planet and ourselves. The only honest thing to do is to stop eating meat, even if the career of some suffer for that.
16. Its good for me that you are vegetarian – but you should not try to convince others. Let the person choose themselves.
Try to let a person see something, is not forcing them. What we eat is not just the business of 1 individual. Eating meat and vegetarianism are not an everlasting flip flop between 2 sides of the same coin. The one causes millions of animals to suffer and die, harms the planet and is unhealthy. The other is not. This is the reason why vegetarians are so driven to speak about it. The individual choice of becoming a vegetarian influences the life of millions of beings.
17. What does it matter that 1 person eats no meat?
A huge different! During the total lifetime the average meat eater eats 5 cows, 20 pigs, 29 sheep and lambs, 780 chickens, 46 turkeys, 7 rabbits and 1 goose and about half a ton of fish. That are a lot of lives saved. We make this world people, changing it begins with ourselves.
Note: every change starts with yourself. There is no one that will do something for you. If you only do things because others do it, then you are a slave.
18. We eat meat since the beginning.
Yes, we also steal, lie, murder and have war since the beginning. That does not mean those things must continue.
Note: this has been going on for so long and will go on when we keep living in our minds and thus in systems.
19. Why do vegetarians always look sick?
They don’t. You can ask the same questions why toupee’s always look geeky. This is why you only notice the “bad” versions. It is seemingly easier to remember 1 pale vegetarian. But if you know someone that looks sick, does not mean that all vegetarians look like that. some famous people who are vegetarian, because I know some of you still want examples to live by : Alicia Silverstone, Joachim Phoenis, Pamela Anderson or Olympic sprinter Carl Lewis.
Note: It is again generalising, and in some way copied thoughts because the comment is spread.
20. If the animals weren’t happy, they would not grow or lay eggs.
This is not correct. Humans do not grow because they are happy, and neither do animals. Modern day meat chicken grow about 2 times as fast as chickens 50 years ago- although their life standard has gotten worse and worse: being stocked with 10 thousand of beings in a stinky, closed breeding bard, with a cut off beak and most are mutilated and paralyzed. They grow because they are breed intensively to get variants that gain weight faster. They are being fed special diets, and are given growth increasing products. Same thing with milk cows: they are cultivated to produce more and more milk, to produce more milk then they naturally would. You could even say that the milking industry support on the unhappiness of their animals – the calves are taken away because then the human can drink the mother milk. Chickens are cultivated to lay so many eggs that they loose to many calcium and suffer from chronicle osteoporoses and fractures. Please, they don’t lay eggs because they are so happy, they do it because they have no choice.
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